Subject: Re: [LPNY DISCUSS] Re: A liberal explains Kerry
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:08:56 -0400
To:        <lpny_discuss@yahoogroups.com>
From:     Bob Armstrong <bob@cosy.com>
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:01:07 -0000, Ronald J. Wieck wrote:
>=A0--- In lpny_discuss@yahoogroups.com, Bob Armstrong=
 <bob@c...>=A0wrote:
>=A0>=A0On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 18:40:00 -0000, Ronald J. Wieck wrote:
>=A0>=A0>=A0Bush drove away our allies.
>=A0>
>=A0>=A0He has .
>
>=A0Okay, we're finally getting some honesty. The "allies" Bush=
 has
>=A0driven away are France, Russia, and Germany. Each one had
>=A0clandestine trade agreements with Saddam and were adamantly=
 opposed
>=A0to any new arrangements.

 Ron , WE CREATED THE BASTARD from the `70s thru Reagan .

 We have been so GD two faced in all this , so what if other=
 have
 committed trade with Iraq .  

 And those are just 3 of - how many ? Certainly add Spain and=
 Mexico .
 Blair took a drubbing in the last elections .
 The populations of the whole world fear us , distrust us ,
 and have lost respect for us .
 
> Are you arguing that Kerry is correct in
>=A0contending that Chirac could have been persuaded to see things=
 our
>=A0way?

 I don't see things your way .  Your views are dangerous to my=
 security .

> I find that opinion utterly fatuous and I strongly doubt that
>=A0Kerry actually believes it. It's just more mindless=
 Bush-bashing.
 
 As opposed to brainless Bush-backing .

>=A0>=A0>=A0We know that Bush loathes Chirac;
>=A0>
>=A0>=A0So when he avers that France is an ally , Bush is lying
>=A0>=A0while Kerry is not ?
>
>=A0You're pretending that Bush makes a great show of calling=
 France our
>=A0ally. He doesn't and nobody thinks he does.

> It is Kerry's campaign=A0message that Bush has alienated our=
 allies.
> I say that the charge is=A0totally bogus

 Well , the only way you maintain that stance is by defining all=
 those
 who have been alienated as non-allies . 

> and you have avoided the issue.

 Which issue ? You contend that there is something horrible=
 about
 France . I've had too many French friends , known and known of 
 too many brilliant French mathematicians to not consider them
 people worth listening to . 

 But you try to make an issue of the fact that Kerry honestly=
 likes
 them while Bush will only dishonestly claim to like them .

 What's the issue again ?
 
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