Subject: Re: [LPNY DISCUSS] Re: Replacement Near, Old Vote Machines Are New York Issue   By ERIC LIPTON  NYTimes.com   October 20, 2003
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:49:10 -0400
To:        <lpny_discuss@yahoogroups.com>
From:     Bob Armstrong <bob@cosy.com>

 Punch cards, despite the bad rap of hanging chads ( which could=
 be
 checked for at the time of depositing of the vote ) and mark=
 sensed
 forms have a lot to be said for them . They are efficient ,
 archival , human readable , non-intermediated methods .

 When I moved to NYC from suburban Chic town back in the '80s 
 I couldn't believe the big grey dinosaur slot machines being=
 used
 instead of the simple efficient punch cards used in Illinois .
 I've never trusted those monsters and consider them a physical
 manifestation of the state of the state .

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:26:28 -0000, rhymetofree6 wrote:
>=A0And if there's any computation between your physical
>=A0action and the printing of your receipt, a process you cannot=
 witness
>=A0is in place. =A0Even if the machine prints a detailed receipt,=
 how do
>=A0you know what it sent to the remote computer, or what it=
 stored
>=A0internally?
>
>=A0I love technology. =A0But for this application I'd prefer paper=
 or
>=A0plastic ballots easily marked and interpreted. =A0Then put video
>=A0cameras on every counting table in the State and either pipe=
 the feed
>=A0to someplace public or record it, or both. =A0Anyone who wanted=
 to see
>=A0his District's counting would have a visual record to check.=
 =A0This is
>=A0a simple, low-tech approach that would provide lots of benefit=
 for
>=A0the money.

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