Subject: Re: [lpny_manhattan] Re: Advocating fraud, prostitution, etc.
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:05:31 -0500
To:        <lpny_manhattan@yahoogroups.com>
From:     Bob Armstrong <bob@cosy.com>
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 02:48:18 -0000, Andrea Snell wrote:
>=A0--- In lpny_manhattan@yahoogroups.com, Gary Snyder=
 <gary@g...>=A0wrote:
>=A0>=A0Joseph wrote:
>=A0>=A0>
>=A0>=A0>=A0This is another tough call, by the way. =A0Can one morally=
 justify
>=A0the
>=A0>=A0>=A0use of perjury to save someone from a prison term you=
 don't
>=A0think he
>=A0>=A0>=A0deserves?
>=A0>
>=A0>=A0I can't think of an EASIER moral question.
>=A0>
>=A0>=A0Damn right I could morally justify it. =A0A better question is=
 can
>=A0>=A0one morally justify NOT using perjury to sit on a jury in=
 order
>=A0>=A0to prevent a wrong (say, a drug, tax or gun conviction) from
>=A0>=A0happening.
>=A0>
>=A0>=A0Gary
>
>=A0Alright, you just justified selective use of fraud ( for=
 yourself at
>=A0least) when it is for a greater good - or so as to prevent what=
 you
>=A0see as a greater evil.
....

 While I see your added examples to be non sequitur , I will=
 restate
 my rejection of dishonesty in the name a greater good , despite=
 the
 horrendous corruption of the right to trial by peers that voir=
 dire
 has inevitably become .

 I like the recommendation I heard to simply say that I don't see=
 how
 my conscience and the law could be in conflict , putting the=
 ball
 back in their court .

 And I say this having been rejected for a petty Lower East Side=
 coke
 buy and bust jury in secret voir dire . At the time I was so=
 naive
 I volunteered my disgust with the laws without prompting .

 But bottom line , I would not sacrifice my personal integrity=
 for a
 incidental obscure victory . Rather , I will pursue the battle=
 here
 and wherever I can on the basis of honest logic .
 
--=A0
=A0Bob Armstrong -- http://CoSy.com -- 212-285-1864
Liberty : http://CoSy.com/Liberty.htm
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=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A02004/02/21 3:43:50 PM